tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post3284004233109998578..comments2023-12-14T15:24:15.672-07:00Comments on Let's talk about it...: CREMATION AND DEEP DOUBTS ABOUT "NEPTUNA" SOCIETY.Avenidas Funeral Chapelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10104214610625969274noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-33500850150340296062014-11-06T16:27:14.193-07:002014-11-06T16:27:14.193-07:00I Do make a profit, at $585I Do make a profit, at $585Avenidas Funeral Chapelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104214610625969274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-21655581923954610282014-11-06T16:25:13.989-07:002014-11-06T16:25:13.989-07:00Both!
Both!<br />Avenidas Funeral Chapelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104214610625969274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-39972190152685468302014-11-04T14:00:17.236-07:002014-11-04T14:00:17.236-07:00I could not have found this article at a better ti...I could not have found this article at a better time. My father-in-law just passed away and he wished to have his body cremated. I have never organized a cremation before so this article was very helpful. I think that we're going to have a good service now because of the things I learned here. Thanks for your help! <a href="http://www.cremationchicago.com/services.html" rel="nofollow"> http://www.cremationchicago.com/services.html</a>Caleb Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03818322222861557724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-14037958243015137002014-09-02T10:25:03.854-07:002014-09-02T10:25:03.854-07:00I would imagine that you actual cost is above $585...I would imagine that you actual cost is above $585.00 when you add in all of the associated business costs: insurance, maintenance, vehicles, taxes, interest, salaries, advertising, depreciation etc. You may not be a "scoundrel" your words, but the business is a business and in order to stay in business you must make a profit! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-54033096516384424062014-09-02T10:20:37.860-07:002014-09-02T10:20:37.860-07:00And...The FCA has done a lot of good work but when...And...The FCA has done a lot of good work but when a death occurs you are typically referred to a funeral home. All of the businesses in my local FCA area are funeral homes that perform cremations. In the "additional information" section of the FCA literature it outlines discounts that can be obtained for caskets, services, the purchase of property from listed "members" etc. typically of 15% which by the way anyone who has a bit of negotiating skill could obtain without FCA participation. And by the way Miguel "direct cremation" pricing is $785.00 which at least make a little more business sense than $585.00. FCA does not guarantee future pricing and insurance or trust funds may be forwarded to the servicing mortuary but no mention is made of "assignment fees."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-40348916344377515842014-09-02T10:09:01.381-07:002014-09-02T10:09:01.381-07:00This is a joke. Read the article in Time Magazine ...This is a joke. Read the article in Time Magazine June 24, 2013 to understand how funeral homes are able to continuing to operate with the surge of cremation decisions... 50% of the U.S. in 2017 (projected). "The Rise of Cremation" is the name of the article. Please explain how that the average cost of a cremation as explained in the above noted article is now $2570.00 (compared to the $585.00 of Miguel's company) and most of the cremations in the U.S. are performed by funeral homes. By-the-way that cost is directly obtained from the Cremation Association of North America. The average cost of a funeral, sans cemetery costs, is $7755.00 and Mr. Miguel what kind of a mark-up is attached to the "merchandise" such as caskets, services, transportation, after-hours pick-up, services, embalming etc?<br />Preneed planning is a blessing! Most everyone that I have spoken with that has had a death in their family and who had to go into a funeral home was subject to "upselling." And that includes me. Those that I know who have used Neptune state that there was positively no "upselling" and there was no need for them to meet with a/the funeral director. Preneed planning eliminates the need, in the case of Neptune, to attend any additional meetings or to be given the opportunity to spend additional $$$. I would bet that at the retail cremation cost of $585.00 your company could not survive without the additional revenue provided by funerals, merchandise sales and services etc.. Oh, by the way what is the average "final" price of a cremation in your facility including all "additional" items. And why has not the issue of the real responsibility of the funeral director been addressed? That responsibility has not been mentioned or addressed. Neptune has a legion of individuals who have had experience with Neptune and a vast majority of those folks recommend Neptune to their family members and friends. And by the way...if one puts a preneed plan in place that is a "local" plan and if that one dies many miles from home the funeral homes or cremation organizations where the client died are under NO OBLIGATION to honor any other price than the one that they have in place at the time of death! So the cost can rise substantially. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-61742014427194874972014-07-17T17:41:37.338-07:002014-07-17T17:41:37.338-07:00Notice how the author will NOT type SCI? CSI, SIC,...Notice how the author will NOT type SCI? CSI, SIC, etc. HAHAHAHAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-23362195594264576472014-07-17T12:43:27.959-07:002014-07-17T12:43:27.959-07:00CSI??? You wrote about them many times??? You spen...CSI??? You wrote about them many times??? You spent 20 years as a member of AMBIS and 18 with FCS? AND YOU STILL WROTE CSI? NOT SCI? Service Corp International is the company. They have such a huge presence in the industry, how on Earth could you write their name wrong? Either you wanted free press in a google search or you didnt want SCI to sue you for libel. Or both! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-69644006876518808462014-03-05T11:17:52.091-07:002014-03-05T11:17:52.091-07:00$585.00 Direct Cremation, cremation container and ...$585.00 Direct Cremation, cremation container and Temporary black plastic box for cremated remains, suitable for burial. Urns start at $95. Not everyone is a scoundrel. Avenidas Funeral Chapelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104214610625969274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-24441921685754742952014-02-26T21:23:20.774-07:002014-02-26T21:23:20.774-07:00Anyone else find it odd that someone from a funera...Anyone else find it odd that someone from a funeral home is writing this blog telling everyone how pre-planning is a big mistake. Yet when they get you on there they tell you a simple creamtion is $795, oh but the URN in $500 and the box to creamte them in is $500. You aren't getting out of anything in the death industry for less than $2000 and that is a fact jack. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-2434216589819584212014-02-19T07:30:27.704-07:002014-02-19T07:30:27.704-07:00Imatreke, first and foremost, "I am to" ...Imatreke, first and foremost, "I am to" That being said, in the community I live in and I serve, that couple of hundred bucks is a weeks worth of groceries or 3/4 of a weeks pay. If some can afford the services fees they charge, that's ok. This is America, we pay for what we choose. The decision on your behalf to pre-arrange to save your family the difficulties at the time of your death is a fine thing. I commend you on your decision to do this. Take care! - MiguelAvenidas Funeral Chapelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104214610625969274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-75630953720618062282014-02-17T11:28:40.590-07:002014-02-17T11:28:40.590-07:00There is something to be said about being able to ...There is something to be said about being able to make arrangements ahead of time and save your family that burden. I am 48 with terminal cancer and even know I an aware this is not the cheapest way I chose Neptune because if the Dr's are correct I would rather they not have to deal with the details and if they are wrong and I live another few decades..its handled. I set up all the arrangement's already have a online sight I set up with pictures and I can add to it for as long as I live. Having saved my family the time and money of trying to do what they think I would have wanted is worth any "extra" money it cost... it may have been a couple hundred but my family may have gone overboard and payed even more or even had me buried due to disagreements among them and that's even more. Just saying sometimes, for some people its a good choice. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08531328510971262237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-26615712658893960412013-11-09T15:52:08.573-07:002013-11-09T15:52:08.573-07:00sometimes it is best to let the REST OF IT be open...sometimes it is best to let the REST OF IT be open to ones interpretation...Avenidas Funeral Chapelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104214610625969274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-26055810269576220552013-11-09T15:49:51.168-07:002013-11-09T15:49:51.168-07:00Marcia, I do not know of any dealings of S.I.C. an...Marcia, I do not know of any dealings of S.I.C. and Neptuna Society. I do know that if you review SIC's website it states that Neptuna is a included in the business it controls or is invested in. S.I.C. has acquired 70% of Neptuna as a considered strategic move on their behalf, now that they (S.I.C.) are starting to accept the fact that cremation is not going to go away. Other than what I find on the internet, I have know knowledge of S.I.C.'s inter marketing/acquisition techniques or why they do what they do. Avenidas Funeral Chapelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104214610625969274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-39768897711169526172013-11-09T15:28:06.128-07:002013-11-09T15:28:06.128-07:00is it true that service corp. international loaned...is it true that service corp. international loaned its cremation business , national cremation society to the neptune society for 5 years ? after 5 years they , meaning the neptune society, has to give it back to s.c.i.?marciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03131863288554119042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-30974612521813255372013-10-11T14:58:45.066-07:002013-10-11T14:58:45.066-07:00Dear Funeral Director, Thank you for your input. U...Dear Funeral Director, Thank you for your input. Unfortunately, If I was referring to the above named businesses and corporation you are referring to, There is a very good chance they would probably send me a "cease and desist letter". And seeing how this specific corporation has "FOUR FLOORS" of legal department in their corporate offices, it is best that they remain the ficticious individuals stated above. Thanks! - MiguelAvenidas Funeral Chapelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104214610625969274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-77215567545170620212013-10-11T11:04:37.689-07:002013-10-11T11:04:37.689-07:00I think it's great that you want to inform the...I think it's great that you want to inform the consumer of their options...however, if you are going to talk about a company, please get their name right. It's not CSI (that's a tv show), it's SCI...Service Corporation International. It's not Neptuna or Naptuna Society...it's Neptune Society. It's not Tredent, it's Trident, nor is it Dingnity, Advantageous, Funeraria de Los Angel or<br />National Creamation Society ...it is Dignity, Advantage, Funeraria Del Angel, and National CREMATION Society. Sorry to be picking at you, but if you are going to give the full and complete "facts" about a company, at least have the courtesy to call them by their proper name. Don't get me wrong....there are several things here that I think you are spot on about.....but next time you decide to share research with the world....just get the company's name right. Respectfully - A fellow funeral directornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-72185312601759707642013-08-24T16:11:12.719-07:002013-08-24T16:11:12.719-07:00Unfortunately so did my parents, my father dying r...Unfortunately so did my parents, my father dying right now and I read about this companys practises having already taken my parents hard earned money, preying on thses seniors who believe that their wishes will be fulfilled, I will be watching you Neptune and your employees...just know you will not get another cent from my family and you better honor your contract!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-31988139522113353242013-05-11T18:07:33.283-07:002013-05-11T18:07:33.283-07:00You're welcome. They told me 260 million memb...You're welcome. They told me 260 million members....but there's only 311 million total USA population! Really? 83%? Unbelievable that I took them at their word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-28671725995616259652013-05-11T07:41:41.906-07:002013-05-11T07:41:41.906-07:00So there you go! another satisfied employee. As yo...So there you go! another satisfied employee. As you can see little is in the interest of the family or the deceased, it apears that it is mainly in the interest of the "Interest" bearing stock, or the corporation, or Service Corporation International, to be exact and their stock holders. Thank you "Anonymous" for this insightfull information. - MiguelAvenidas Funeral Chapelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104214610625969274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-44582320131477165822013-05-08T14:09:20.603-07:002013-05-08T14:09:20.603-07:00This was an eye opener! I worked at Neptune until ...This was an eye opener! I worked at Neptune until recently. What the counselor told Mr. Hankins is in contradiction as to how I was "trained". I too was given the same sales tactics, telling prospects Neptune was the ONLY one to trust. I was lied to in the interest of making the sale. The actual cost of their direct cremation is around $800. That amount goes into an interest bearing trust account. But who collects the interest? At over 260,000,000 living Neptune pre-need members today well,that's over 200 trillion dollars in trust accounts. Plus they make a huge profit on the pre-need kits that are manditorily included. Anyone want to buy SCI stock? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-28066519267256688932013-04-11T06:55:21.679-07:002013-04-11T06:55:21.679-07:00Hello, Selection of a cremation facility is a very...Hello, Selection of a cremation facility is a very personal choice. I honestly encourage you to shop arround first.It would be unethical for me to direct you to one facility over another, even as a buisness owner.But I do encourge you to look and see what the facilities in your area have to offer. As an individual, I have worked for SCI, and I would not use them for funeral or cremation services. Maybe for cemetery, but thats all. I wish you well and please shop around. - Miguel LegaspiAvenidas Funeral Chapelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10104214610625969274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5126508869325778596.post-14848325144017149892013-04-09T14:27:19.162-07:002013-04-09T14:27:19.162-07:00Thank you for this great information on cremation ...Thank you for this great information on <a href="http://www.familieschoicecremation.com/cremation-services.htm" rel="nofollow">cremation services</a>. What is the best company to go with? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276452080744451859noreply@blogger.com